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The Daily Beast Podcast

This Is How Trump Goons Exploit His Mental Decline

The Daily Beast Podcast

The Daily Beast

News & Politics

4.67.9K Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2026

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

David Rothkopf joins Joanna Coles for a blistering, darkly funny tour through what they argue is the accelerating late stage of Donald Trump: a president who can’t hold a thought, wanders off mid-meeting, and yet is being weaponized by Stephen Miller, Marco Rubio, JD Vance, and others to push extreme agendas at breakneck speed. Along the way, they unpack Democratic paralysis, early signs of Republican and corporate peeling away, the politics of immigration as it tips from winning issue to liability, and why the real fight now is about stopping the madness before the midterms—plus, because it’s 2026, a detour into Doritos, Hollywood finally finding its voice again, and the Melania movie as protest art.

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0:00.0

Marco Rubio folded up a little note, handed it to Trump.

0:03.6

Trump opened up the note.

0:05.1

I think it was like, go back to the guy from Chevron.

0:08.0

And Trump just read it out straight because those parts of his brain just aren't working anymore.

0:15.8

But if you're Stephen Miller, you know, you hand him a note and you say, take over Greenland, or you hand

0:22.8

him a note, and you say, white people only, or you hand them a note, and you say, let's shut

0:27.8

down the Fed. And, and Trump goes, uh-huh, you know, you know, am I going to get credit for that?

0:37.5

I'm Joanna Colt. This is the Daily Beast podcast, and I'm so excited to bring the conversation.

0:42.4

I've just had a rousing conversation with David Rothkopf, who just lists everything that is going on right now.

0:50.3

And it's as if Donald Trump has tried to erase the entire 20th century. And we take a fascinating,

0:59.5

wandering by the way, about what it was actually like working with Bill Clinton when you knew

1:05.1

he was having all these extracurricular, romantic, sexual activities. David worked for the Clinton administration.

1:13.2

He was also the editor of Foreign Policy magazine, and he just brings such a clear, frankly,

1:19.0

bomb-throwing perspective on what's going on right now.

1:23.0

I can't wait for you to join us and for us to get into it.

1:28.5

David Rothkopf, where do we begin? I mean, is it Iran, Venezuela, Minneapolis, Jerome Powell,

1:34.9

Trump staring vacantly out of the window, Trump trying not to grab Carolyn Levitt. I want to grab

1:41.2

Carolyn Levitt, but not for the same reasons, I think. Where do we begin, David?

1:46.7

How bad is it? You know, we talk periodically, and I think one of the things that we're talking more

1:51.7

frequently. No, I know. I like it. I'm not complaining. But what I'm saying is, I think we have to say

1:57.8

that the decline of Donald Trump is accelerate. right? I mean, this, we,

2:04.0

you know, sometimes people talk about like late stage capitalism. We're in late stage Donald Trump.

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