The following podcast is a dear media production. Okay, hi Hillary, hi Caroline.

Hello. I went to a party last night and 90% of the people were smoking and vaping and I was like this is so funny

because I literally told everybody I was like I'm having a podcast about these two girls

who started to quit with Jans.

Because I just can't believe how everybody, we all know it's so bad, but everybody smokes

or vapes. Yeah that is perfect timing and even

anecdotally it feels like more people do it than what the stats show and like we can get into that later but exactly what you're saying like

Caroline and I live in New York and if you go out to any bar any party any concert it's at least every other person. It feels like everyone. It's crazy.

It's everyone. What are you to say, Carol? No, no, I was going to say, we've heard that like the estimates are 2 billion people use nicotine daily.

2 billion? That's what they think. Worldwide. Yeah. I'm unbelievable.

And I mean, like this age group I would assume is lower than the party you are at.

Maybe not. I don't know what parties you're going to, but the most recent data shows that for 21 to 24 year olds, 44% have vaped in the past month, or in the past week, in the past week, and in the past month it's 52.6%, so over half have

raped in the last month, almost half in the past week what I was saying before like I think

anecdotally just from going out and about it seems like it might even be higher than that in

reality it has to I mean there's a vapid everybody's hand. I like don't even I so I don't I've never gotten into vaping

But I am somebody who gets drunk and like loves a cheeky sigg and that comes from my dad's my

dad was a dentist who smoked cigarettes. A lot of doctors do.

I know when I made when we're in my husband A lot of doctors do, which is so surprising.

When I made, when we're in, my husband's mother

was in the hospital, sick in Italy,

we've spent a lot of time in the hospital there,

and there's a smoking section outside

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