The Michael Berry Show.

Joe you're on the Michael Berry show go ahead sir

Michael. Look we talk a lot about criminal justice reform and bail reform

One of the things I don't think we talk enough about and our leaders is

prison reform and what I mean by that is these criminals they have nothing to

deter them from doing their evil. I think it's prison is one of them things where they

know they can go there, they can get three meals a day. They can watch TV, they can lift

weights, play basketball. It's a it's a diagram retirement facility for some of these folks and I think that's one of the reasons why crime is out of control the way it is because, you know, prisons not what it used to be.

It used to be that, they used to strike fear in these criminals now. You know they hear the word prison they're like whatever that's fine. I just go hang out with my buddies.

I think it's one of those things that you know the Republican leaders I really would like them to

to start addressing that that aspect as well.

Yeah, okay. Yes, I don't disagree with your premise.

The problem is you're not sending people to prison for the crimes they're committing.

So what prison is or is not is less of an issue

because they're not even being sent there the second thing which we don't talk about it a lot, but pretty much anybody can watch it on any of the streaming platforms,

prison has become not a bad place.

Prison has become a different place.

I live in Beaumont, you live in Lake Charles. I live in Cleveland, you live in Seattle. They're just different

places. Maybe one is more desirable than the other, but it's a place you live.

And sometimes people go live in prison.

And then they get out, but sometimes they'll go live there again and everybody's done

prison culture has so influenced the inner city.

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