From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is an extended cut of the business.

Sometimes working on a documentary means taking big risks.

In tackling a project to figure out how Vladimir Putin tried to kill Russian dissident

Alexei Navalny, investigative journalist Christo Grosov took one of the biggest risks imaginable.

When Navalny and I were saying our goodbyes when he was about to leave for Berlin, he

literally turned to me and said, well, until now I was number one on Putin's list and from

now on, you're number one on Putin's kill list. And it seems that he was not joking.

Christo Grosov and director Daniel Rohr are in Oscar contention for their film Navalny.

The British Film Academy took the danger facing Grosov so seriously that he was uninvited

from the BAFTA awards ceremony in which the film won for best documentary.

Grozev and Roar share why the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine expedited the release of

their film and the challenge of staying objective despite Navalny's exceptional charm. But first we banter.

Stick around. It's the business from KCRW.

I am joined by my colleague in banter, Matt Bellany. Hello, Matt.

Hi there. So, as you know, Warner Brothers

Discovery Chief David Zazlov has said in the last few days that Warner Brothers Discovery is going

to try and get back in the Lord of the Rings business. You also know Amazon has a very, very expensive

Lord of the Rings derived TV show. They paid a lot of money

for the rights, which they negotiated with the J.R.R. Tolkien estate. And they spent a lot of money to make

this series. So I have to think that if you are them, you don't particularly love the idea of

David Zaslov coming out and saying, we're doing this,

and the possibility that Peter Jackson, who did the movies, the ones that won the Oscars and all the awards,

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