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Thinking Sideways. I brought the ideas. You must come in. What do you have to do? I don't know. Stories of things we simply don't know the answer to.

Hi there and welcome to another episode of Thinking Sideways. I'm your host this week. Join as always by Steve and Devon and what's your name?

Oh, I'm Joe. Did I not say my name? No. I'm Joe. Sorry. Okay. What are we going to talk about this week? Did we have any script for this week? I don't know. You were the boss of a man. Okay. Well, here I got one here. This is from the bottom of my suitcase.

This is the death of a Ugloplazo. And I spelled just so you know it's H-U-G-U-E-S. That's a French word. That's a French word. It's our French name, but it's pronounced Ugloplazo.

And he was killed in San Francisco in June 2007. So almost died. San Francisco. Yeah, he died. I guess I should say he died. First of all, before we go any further, I want to give a shout out to our listener Andrew who suggested this mystery and who probably is a killer also. But you know, I tried just trying to keep it alive. This is a cry for attention to get caught. I think so. Andrew, you're not pulling us. But thanks anyway. And hopefully he didn't kill him just for just a great mystery for us. But this is before we started recording. So we're saved. Yeah. I think so.

There's a lot of the reasons we have that five year rule. Yeah, exactly. So so quick, very quick biographical stuff on Ugloplazo. He was French, but he had dual French American citizenship. His parents still live in France. And as far as I know, they're still alive today. And by the way, they would still like to know exactly what happened. Because he did have a strange mysterious death. And there are some really big unanswered questions. Last I heard they put up a $100,000 reward for any information regarding Ugloplazo.

Regarding Ugloplazo. And as far as I know, the reward is still around. You guys have you guys heard anything one way? I've heard anything to the contrary, but I hadn't really tracked down the reward part back to back to Ugloplazo. He had lived in the US. I believe they lived in New York for a little while. Then moved to San Francisco. He had been an SF for about four years. And then in 2007 at age 36, well, he died. And that's what we're going to talk about is why did he die? What else did he do? He worked while he was there at a company called Leaprog.

Which is an educational toy. And they're still cracking up those devices to educate your kids and all that stuff. So they're big actually. And he was, I guess, a sound engineer. Yeah.

And so it sounds like a good job. One of those high-paying Bay Area jobs. Oh, yeah. One of the one percent. Was that in, that was during the tech bubble?

No, the tech bubble was a little earlier. That was late 90s. Okay, you're right. Right. I just every time I think of that kind of general area,

I'm like, it wasn't in the bubble or not. But it was still a good paying job. Well, I didn't believe from.

You know, it might turn out that it is in the bubble just the second bubble. We'll find out.

We're in the 17th year of the bubble. I mean, it's possible. It's entirely possible. The world is a bubble.

Yeah, well, this bubble is all around us. But anyway, back to our mystery.

Who also had a long-term girlfriend for about four years. Her name was Melissa Nick. So if you've read any of the websites or news

specials about this show, you've heard of her. They had unfortunately broken up by the time our mystery occurred. And he was dating around, apparently dating quite a lot.

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