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This is open to debate. I'm John Don Ben. Hi, everybody. And this episode is one of our

think twice conversations where instead of a debate, I talk with one person who brings so much insight

to a topic that you will forever find yourself thinking about that thing twice, that thing that we are

discussing, which of course is the same effect

as a good debate, but there's just no arguing.

Instead, conversation.

Now, to set the table on this one, there's a certain kind of book that I really enjoy

reading where the author frames a very concrete and specific subject and then finds

endless connections to other subjects, all threads of a very concrete and specific subject and then finds endless connections to other subjects,

all threads of a very complex story.

Franklin Forre of The Atlantic did this with his book, How Soccer Explains the World.

Another good one is Mark Pendergrass's Uncommon Grounds, The History of Coffee and How It Transformed

Our World.

Alan Gurney did a brilliant book about the compass and how it changed everything.

I took the same approach when I wrote my own book.

I don't know if you know I'm not just a moderator, but also an author.

I wrote in a different key, the story of autism, which looks at the autism diagnosis and its discovery,

but spins dozens of stories that go all over the world through places like

courtrooms and scientific laboratories and civil rights battles and they're heroes and villains

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