Think And Grow Rich

If Books Could Kill

Michael Hobbes & Peter Shamshiri

Books, Politics, Society & Culture, News, Arts

4.6 • 10.3K Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2026

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Peter and Michael discuss "Think And Grow Rich," the 1937 classic written by a lifelong fraudster who finds his final mark: You. Where to find us: Our PatreonOur merch!Peter's newsletterPeter's other podcast, 5-4Mike's other podcast, Maintenance PhaseSources: The Untold Story of Napoleon Hill, the Greatest Self-Help Scammer of All TimeA Lifetime of RichesHow to Lose Friends and Alienate PeopleHow a Different America Responded to the Great DepressionThe Psychic Scandal How Trump Turned T...

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0:00.0	Yeah, what do you got?
0:01.2	What do you know about this?
0:02.1	Do you know anything?
0:02.7	Nothing.
0:03.1	I didn't even know it was one of those old-timey self-help books until you told me.
0:06.7	The one thing to know is this is like fundamentally it's the secret. He'll be like, Andrew Carnegie knew the secret. I already know where this is going. Wait. Did I tell you that? No, I'm just like trying to think of old-timey celebrities that he's going to use.
0:20.1	This whole book is premised on the idea that he had a conversation with Andrew Carnegie that he learned from. I literally did not know that. Wow, we're so good at this. We're so good at this that you actually pulled out the entire conceit of this book from thin air. Should I just do the episode, Peter, having not read the book? I'll just improv the whole thing. I'll tell you at the end
0:38.7	what you got right and what you got wrong. Who starts? Michael? Peter. What do you know about
0:44.2	think and grow rich? All I know is that I'm nostalgic for a time in America where you had to think
0:49.1	to grow rich.
1:07.4	Yeah. Think and Grow Rich by a man named Napoleon Hill.
1:08.1	Wait, really?
1:08.6	Yeah.
1:10.5	Oliver Napoleon Hill.
1:10.9	Okay. This is a book from 1937.
1:13.7	Powerful name.
1:14.8	Could almost say that it contains an ancient wisdom.
1:18.7	A secret, if you will.
1:20.4	This book has sold some unbelievable amount of copies.
1:24.3	I've seen estimates that look like 100 million copies.
1:28.6	That sounds wrong. Yeah,
1:32.8	that's probably not true. But I've just heard crazy numbers. Yeah. It is the spiritual progenitor of many self-help books, not just in substance, but in style and in the nature of
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