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If Books Could Kill

Grit

If Books Could Kill

Michael Hobbes & Peter Shamshiri

Books, Politics, Society & Culture, News, Arts

4.610.3K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2026

⏱️ 79 minutes

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In 2013, education reformers tried to help poor students the using the best tool at their disposal: The 16th most popular Ted Talk. Special thanks to Marcus Credé! Where to find us: Our PatreonOur merch!Peter's newsletterPeter's other podcast, 5-4Mike's other podcast, Maintenance PhaseSources: Much Ado About GritWhat Shall We Do About Grit?Grit under attackTeaching “Grit”The Problem With GritThe Limits of “Grit”Grit: The power of passion and perseveranceIs 'Grit' Doomed To Be The ...

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0:00.0

All right. I have, I'm not kidding when I say I know nothing about this book and I've never heard of it once in my life.

0:05.7

That's good. You're going in fresh. It's called grit. I'm going to assume this is about the grit as like a personal characteristic, right? It's like a grit, the power of persevering or something. Yeah, literally, Peter.

0:20.4

What is that? It's literally grit, colon, the power of passion and something. Yeah, literally, Peter. What is that? It's literally grit colon, the power of

0:23.5

passion and perseverance. Dude, I'm so fucking good now. You've done the show more too long.

0:31.6

Oh my God. Broza, you're not going to do the obvious zinger. What's the obvious singer? Isn't the

0:36.3

title missing an F?

0:38.3

What?

0:39.1

Grift.

0:41.0

Oh my, I'm so stupid.

0:43.0

I was like, what the fuck's for grit?

0:44.4

I think you'd be all over that.

0:46.7

All right, let's just go.

0:47.6

Yeah, yeah, okay.

0:48.0

Peter.

0:48.9

Michael.

0:50.7

What do you know about grit?

0:56.1

All I know is that that title is one F short of being accurate.

1:14.3

So the full title of this book is Grit,, the power of passion and perseverance by Angela Duckworth.

1:16.6

And we will not be talking about it for at least 45 minutes.

1:20.4

Because first, you're going to talk about the history of grit, the history of grittiness.

1:24.1

Well, we do actually have to talk about the history of the concept because this episode

1:27.2

is really about the rise and fall of an idea.

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