Hi there. As you may know over the past few weeks in conversation has been running a

series called Think Again. It's all about how to reimagine work, home, and more. Today,

as part of the series,

we're bringing you a special episode

from our archives about our relationship to work.

Hope you enjoy it.

This is in conversation from Apple News. I'm Shimita Basu. Today, how to rethink the way you work.

How's your relationship to your job? Does it feel healthy, sustainable?

For a lot of people, it got worse during the pandemic. One survey in 2021 found

more than a third of the men and nearly half of the women polled said that they often felt burned out at work.

Another poll found American workers are some of the most stressed in the world. So what's going wrong here?

Burnout is a reaction to growth capitalism, right? It is a reaction to feeling like you are

unstable and don't have a safety net and the only way that you're

going to find stability is by working all the time. That's the journalist Anne

Helen Peterson.

She thinks and writes a lot about work and our relationship to it,

including why for so many people

your work has become your entire identity.

And I think that a way to glamorize working all the time is to say,

I'm doing what I love, right?

To say this is my identity and because I'm doing what I love, you know, my life has purpose and that sort of thing and like it's worth any sort of exploitation. It's worth the exhaustion. It's all worth it because this is part of a larger purpose.

Anne and her partner, journalist Charlie Worsel, came together to write a book called Out of Office, The Big Problem and Bigger Promise of

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