Welcome to The Lost Debate, a show for political eclectics. I'm Robbie Gupta. And in a bit, we're going to hear from our friend Isaac Saul. I think he has broken the record as our most recurring guests we've ever had. I haven't talked to him in a bit. We start with this piece he wrote where, you know, Isaac has, you know, Tangle News is he presents the right wing or conservative

perspective. He presents the left wing or liberal perspective. And then he gives his opinions. And he

has amassed a huge audience of people who trust him from all across the political spectrum.

When people rate news sites, I forget, I think it's called ground news or some one of these

sites that like rates people on objectivity and balance, he always scores

the best or among the best for new sites for his objectivity.

And he's somebody I admire a ton.

And the reason why I had him on is he kind of broke the fourth wall or whatever and wrote

this piece that was like, I just think

there's a lot happening right now that I can't pretend to be like on the one hand and on the other

hand about like it's really bad. And so we talk about that piece. He and I both share our

perspectives. Those of you know me probably get a sense for how alarmed I am about some

of the things happening in the U.S. right now. And so we talk all about that. And then towards the end, maybe the final third or

a quarter, we talk about my time in Italy, cooking, how Isaac stays sane while reading and

consuming the news all the time. And so for those of you don't want to hear the doom and gloom,

you can fast forward all the way to that. We could probably put a time code in the show notes. But if you want to hear my unvarnished and Isaac's unvarnished thoughts on just how out of control things are right now, you can listen to the first part. A couple of housekeeping items. One is I'm starting a writer's group. You can call it a workshop.

I don't like that term.

I call it a finishing school for 2026 where I'm going to be taking on a small group of writers who want to finish a project, whether they want to write a book or do a narrative podcast,

write a script or whatever.

And it's going to be emphasized on the doing,

not just hearing from experts, although we will hear from people in the publishing industry

and claimed authors and things like that, but it would really be me working with people and

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