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Emergence Magazine Podcast

Thin White Line – Maya Pace

Emergence Magazine Podcast

Emergence Magazine

Society & Culture, Natural Sciences, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Science

4.7627 Ratings

🗓️ 30 September 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

After the destructive fires of 2020, writer and facilitator Maya Pace awakens to how California’s essential dry, scorched nature has been repressed to realize a vision of economic and social prosperity across the state. Searching for what it means to love a place that is harsh, uncomfortable, or increasingly unfamiliar, she connects with communities living in landscapes removed from our ideals of paradise. What does it mean to live fully in the reality of a place, rather than how we wish it to be? she asks. What if our relationship with the land grew not from a practice of control, but from surrender? Read the essay. Photo by Young Suh. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to Emergence Magazine's podcast.

0:03.0

I'm Emanuel Vaughn Lee, host of this show, an executive editor of Emergence Magazine,

0:09.0

located on the unseated ancestral lands of the Coast Miwok people in present-day Marin County.

0:16.0

Each week, we feature interviews, stories, poetry, and author-narrated essays, exploring the threads connecting ecology, culture, and spirituality.

0:29.6

California, as we know it today, an agricultural powerhouse, home to some of America's most iconic and densely populated cities, and the

0:38.9

fifth largest economy in the world, is built on one of the most extensive water delivery

0:44.5

systems on Earth.

0:47.1

Developed over the past century, intricate web of reservoirs, dams, power stations, and

0:51.9

gravity-defying pipes has enabled water to be moved from one

0:55.9

end of the state to the other. Los Angeles, for example, is built on the edge of a desert, import 75%

1:03.4

of its water from distant sources, the Owens River, the heavily siphoned Colorado River, and the Sacramento

1:09.9

River, hundreds of miles to the north.

1:12.6

In defiance of this place's hydrological limitations, humans have rearranged California's natural resources

1:19.6

to make real a vision of economic and social prosperity across the state, and in doing so,

1:25.6

have rendered the land unrecognizable from its pre-settlement form.

1:30.8

In this week's story, writer and facilitator Maya Pace confronts the long-standing utilitarian

1:37.1

mindset that has driven California to exploit the natural resources of one place in order to build

1:42.8

a paradise elsewhere.

1:45.2

When her comfortable perception of her home is shattered in the wake of the state's 2020 wildfires,

1:50.7

replaced by a glimpse of how fire, aridness, and unpredictability has been repressed in this landscape

1:56.5

by the movement of water, Maya begins to search for what it means to love a place that is no longer

2:01.6

recognizable. An experience that is increasingly common as homes across the globe are transformed

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