“They Tried To Silence Me” - Atheist Turned Pastor REVEALS Death Threats Over His Beliefs
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🗓️ 5 April 2026
⏱️ 14 minutes
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Patrick Bet David asks Lee Strobel how CS Lewis, Josh McDowell, and classic apologetics shaped his journey from atheist journalist to Christian, as Strobel unpacks the liar lunatic Lord argument, media bias, and why he no longer trusts outlets like the New York Times.
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| 0:00.0 | Your evolution of, you know, going from the atheist to a, you know, Christian, what role did |
| 0:07.0 | C.S. Lewis play, you know, with mere Christianity or some of his other writings that he had? What role did he play? |
| 0:13.0 | He played a big role. I mean, mere Christianity is a classic. And I recommend anybody read that, whether a believer or not a believer, just someone who's checking out the faith. It's just a great, great book. C.S. Lewis wrote some wonderful, wonderful stuff. So I enjoyed him. You know, on a popular level, Josh McDowell. Remember, Josh, he's a friend now. And his son, Sean McDowell is a fantastic. He's a professor at Biola University. |
| 0:39.7 | And my son is a professor there. |
| 0:44.9 | He has a PhD in Faith. |
| 0:51.0 | He's a Jonathan Edwards scholar, and he teaches spiritual formation at their seminary. |
| 0:56.3 | But Josh wrote some popular level books. There's a book written by a guy, |
| 1:02.6 | gosh, what was his name? Oh, there's several books. The Agnostic Who Dared to Search, |
| 1:09.8 | that was an interesting book. Peter Stoner. Peter Stoner. A great name. Yeah. Peter Stoner. Sounds like an atheist name. |
| 1:11.6 | It doesn't it? |
| 1:12.6 | And he was. |
| 1:13.6 | Peter Stoner. |
| 1:14.6 | That's right. |
| 1:15.6 | He was an atheist in England and became a Christian after he investigated the evidence for the resurrection. |
| 1:20.6 | And I read that book. |
| 1:21.6 | There was a famous guy who made Harvard Law School what it is, which is the second greatest |
| 1:25.6 | law school after Yale. |
| 1:32.7 | But back in the 1800s who investigated faith and became a believer and wrote a wonderful book on the reliability of the Gospels. There's a lot of great stuff out there. |
| 1:36.4 | Did Josh McDowell write a book called Tolerance? |
| 1:39.9 | No. He wrote a book called The Evidence and Demands a Verdict and More Than a Carpenter on a real popular level. |
| 1:47.6 | Yep, yep. Great guy. Still alive. |
| 1:49.6 | Sean, as I say, his son is doing great work. He has a wonderful podcast that he does. |
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