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Defending Democracy with Marc Elias

They're Stopping Trump's $1.8 Billion Slush Fund | Skye Perryman

Defending Democracy with Marc Elias

Democracy Docket

News, Politics

4.9702 Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2026

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Democracy Docket founder Marc Elias sits down with Skye Perryman, CEO of Democracy Forward, to break down the legal fight against Trump's $1.788 billion slush fund — and why the Department of Justice made a huge legal mistake. They also discuss Democracy Forward's efforts to expose DOGE's voter data security breaches, and how their work is an important reminder that due process is available to all of us. Even when going up against the president.Subscribe to our free newsletters or upgrade to support our work: https://bit.ly/3OK7w4A Learn more about Democracy Forward: https://democracyforward.org/

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0:00.0

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0:03.0

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0:07.7

dollar swings.

0:08.9

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0:11.4

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0:13.6

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0:18.0

Hey, everyone.

0:19.0

This is Mark Elias, founder of Democracy Docket. I've got a great episode for you today. I'm

0:24.2

interviewing Sky Paramarman, the incomparable CEO of Democracy Forward. Sky Perryman, welcome back to

0:30.3

defending democracy. Thanks so much for having me, Mark. So I have to tell you at the outset that Sky and I

0:34.3

go way back because I was one of the original sort of founders or creators

0:38.6

of Democracy Forward, and she was one of the first lawyers who was hired. She now runs the

0:46.1

whole show, and I am a cheerleader for her efforts. All the glory goes to her. I'm happy to

0:52.8

chair the board of Democracy forward, so that's all

0:55.6

the disclaimers people need. But, Sky, you guys have had a lot of big wins, and I want to delve

1:01.1

into a couple of them. And let's kick it off with the one that right now is dominating the news.

1:06.8

And that has to do with this ridiculous, illegal, I don't know what you want to call it, slush fund.

1:14.3

Well, you know, this is where the Donald Trump and the Department of Justice, they always get in their own way.

1:19.6

I mean, let me just start with the slush fund is completely unlawful.

1:23.9

For those that have been tuning in, this is the $1.78 billion fund that Donald Trump

1:30.5

sought to create after filing a completely fraudulent lawsuit against the IRS, against himself,

1:37.2

then he tried to manufacture a settlement and now has created a settlement where he wants to

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