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Welcome back. We're having this great discussion with Dr. Nancy Bull Penrod, psychologist, an

expert in serving the first responder community.

And Nancy, one of the reasons I wanted to have you on

is I just, I have this huge heart

for not only veterans but first responders I was a veteran and does an

infantry medic a first responder and as we've looked at their brains here over the last 30 years, I see three patterns.

I see emotional trauma because almost all of them have it when you talk to them about their histories if they've been on the job for any length of time.

We see their emotional brain stirred up, which may be why they drink more because

they want to calm it down.

I see toxic exposure, not so much in the police officers, but definitely in the firefighters,

you know, inhaling carbon monoxide, cyanide from burning furniture, their brains do not look healthy overall.

It looks like they're being poisoned.

And then physical trauma to the brain and that could be the falls that they've had

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