Theocratic Politics & The New Apostolic Reformation with André Gagné and Frederick Clarkson

Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan

Dr. Steven Hassan

Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education

4.8 • 684 Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2024

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

In this era of political polarization, the landscape in the United States is marked by the rise of Donald Trump as the frontrunner for the Republican nomination in the 2024 presidential election. This despite Trump facing numerous legal challenges–including over his involvement in the January 6th attack on the United States Capitol. However, Trump and his supporters are but the most visible element. The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) is increasingly taking over the religious right movement and, in turn, influencing the Republican Party, which holds implications for Christianity and the future of democracy. The NAR is closely aligned with those who are on a mission to take over democracy worldwide under the guise of “religious freedom.” Not only are they backing Trump, but Trump is backing them. This movement of politicized Neo-Charismatic Pentecostals (NCP) seeks to assert dominance through their Seven Mountain Mandate, which we’ve previously discussed. There is a possibility that Trump could once again serve as a conduit for their agenda at the nation’s highest office, amplifying the impact of this cult movement towards religious theocracy through the legislative and judicial branches of government at all levels. The theocratic end goals are clearly laid out through Project Blitz, a state-level legislative program primarily led by NAR operatives. André Gagné and Frederick Clarkson returned to my show to discuss the NAR, its background, and ways to educate people worldwide about it. This is a very special interview of major importance. Learn more about Steven Hassan and Freedom of Mind Resource Center. Visit freedomofmind.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello, I'm Dr. Stephen Hassan with another episode of the influence continuum.
0:09.0	And I've been looking forward to today's talk with two scholars, people that I respect so very much.
0:19.0	I'd like to introduce Frederick Clarkson first. Fred has written
0:24.4	about politics and religion for four decades, and he interviewed me four decades ago when I got
0:30.7	out of the Moonies, I will add. His work has appeared in a wide range of publications from Mother Jones, Church and State, Ms. Magazine, Christian Science Monitor, religion dispatches.
0:44.9	He's worked as an investigative editor, Planned Parenthood Federation of America, Communications Director at the Institute for Democracy Studies, co-founded the group blog Talk to
0:57.0	Action. He's the author, co-author, and editor of several books, including dispatches from
1:02.9	the religious left, the future of faith and politics in America, and eternal hostility,
1:09.2	the struggle between theocracy and democracy.
1:12.7	He's currently a senior research analyst at the Political Research Associates,
1:17.4	which is a progressive think tank in Somerville, Massachusetts.
1:20.6	And I just want to credit, Frederick helped me so much when I was researching the cult of Trump, and that term is now worldwide,
1:31.1	cult of Trump, cult of Trump. And I thank you, Frederick, because you really educated me as well
1:37.8	as helped to edit some of my writing to make sure it was correct. And we have done previous interviews.
1:46.2	If you like this one and you want to check out previous ones on Freedom of Mind,
1:51.0	please do.
1:52.4	And distinguished scholar, Andrei Gagne, who I've had the pleasure to interview also.
1:59.7	Andre Gagne is a full professor and chair of the Department
2:03.3	of Theological Studies. I'm going to ask you, Andre, to explain your conjoint PhD is from
2:10.7	University Catholic de Louvain. That's in Belgium. Yes. with the University of Montreal.
2:18.6	Fantastic. So you are a former pastor of a New Apostolic Reformation group when we first met,
2:26.4	but you have gone on to research and teach about this. I will also add that in 2023, you were appointed as a member of the
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