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Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan

Taking Down Trump: 12 Rules for Prosecuting Donald Trump by Someone Who Did It Successfully with Tristan Snell

Cult Conversations: The Influence Continuum with Dr. Steve Hassan

Dr. Steven Hassan

Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education

4.8 • 684 Ratings

🗓️ 19 February 2024

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

The Trump University grift followed the same playbook as many predatory organizations, like Multi-Level Marketing (MLM) organizations. Victims are hooked through legitimate sounding offers, like a weekend sales course for $1,500. However, once the victims attend the weekend sales course, they are pressured into buying more courses for more money to achieve goals too good to be true. It’s a classic bait-and-switch. So, how can regular people receive justice when high-powered people and organizations wield deception and cult-like practices? That’s where Tristan Snell comes in. Snell is a lawyer and legal commentator featured on MSNBC, NPR, in the Washington Post and Wall Street Journal. He served as Assistant Attorney General for New York State, leading the investigation and prosecution of Trump University. Snell has developed a playbook for going up against Trump and others like Trump in court. This is a unique interview that you won’t want to miss! Learn more about Steven Hassan and Freedom of Mind Resource Center. Visit freedomofmind.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Dr. Stephen Hassan with another episode of the influence continuum.

0:09.9

And boy, I'm excited to see Tristan Snell's new book, taking down Trump, 12 rules for

0:18.8

prosecuting Donald Trump by someone who did it successfully.

0:23.5

And Tristan, you are an attorney.

0:26.4

You are also a legal commentator for MSNBC, NPR, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal.

0:36.0

You served as Assistant Attorney General for New York State when you led the investigation and prosecution of the Trump University scam.

0:46.4

And I'll also just say you're the founder and managing partner of Main Street Law, a content creator with over 650,000 followers across

0:56.7

Instagram, threads, TikTok, Twitter, or X, as he prefers to call it. And you live in New York

1:04.3

City. And I'll just say now, and I'll say it again, Takingdowntrump.com is your place to download the book at your favorite, a bookseller.

1:18.2

And so all I can say is, we need you, Tristan.

1:24.2

Let's tell the public, like, what was the formula that you're now trying to encourage other

1:31.2

prosecutors and just even the average citizen to understand about dealing with this guy

1:37.9

in court?

1:39.8

Yeah, thank you.

1:41.1

So the kicker here is it's a combination of courage, along with the legal merits that you have to build up through really dogged investigation and being very creative because Trump is going to stonewall. You have to get documents from third parties. But that courageous leadership piece

2:02.4

of it is really critical, where it doesn't matter if you've got a whole bunch of evidence,

2:08.2

if the lead prosecutor in an office doesn't actually want to go forward, then the case is not

2:13.0

going to go anywhere. And that almost was the case in our case, three, four, five, six different times.

2:19.7

And then we've seen it also with DOJ, not initially green lighting, going after Trump and

2:26.4

his inner circle for January 6th for over a year, according to reporting from the Washington Post.

2:32.0

Or Alvin Bragg, the Manhattan DA, not putting the

2:36.6

cabosh on the investigations that that office had going, and they were sidelined for a year,

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