Hey everyone, David Kern here. Before we get to this week's episode, I just want to tell you about the

SIRC Institute Atrium Program. It's a one-year program that explores the foundations of Christian

classical education with online classes and discussions. The Atrium now features five different

courses, and participants can choose any one course or sign up for multiple courses.

These courses include our very own Heidi White, our very own here on The Closer Reads,

talking about classical pedagogy.

And then we've got Andrew Kern talking about classical rhetoric,

Matthew Bianco talking about Plato's Republic.

And then from West Callahan,

you can choose either the Divine Comedy or the Iliad.

So there are great options for anybody who wants to dig into any of these subjects.

If you'd like to learn more, head over to surcey institute.com slash atrium. Again, that's surcey institute.com slash atrium.

And once again, those courses are Heidi Wade and classical pedagogy, Andrew Kern and classical

rhetoric, Matthew Bianco on Plato's Republic, or Wes Callahan on The Divine Comedy or the

Iliad. One more time, that link is surcey institute.com slash atrium.

And with that, let's get to this week's conversation.

Hello, I'm David Kern. I'm Heidi White. And I'm Tim McIntosh. And you were listening to Close

Reads, a podcast for the In-Cure lore reader on which we were going to be discussing

Zora Neil Hurstins, their eyes were

watching God. This is our first episode on this book. We're going to talk about the first five

chapters or roughly the first 50 or so pages. And before we get into that, Tim, Heidi, how's it

going? It's going great. Thanks, David. How are you? Top of the afternoon, David.

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