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99% Invisible

Their Dark Materials

99% Invisible

SiriusXM Podcasts and Roman Mars

Arts, Design

4.828.1K Ratings

🗓️ 22 January 2020

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Vantablack was created by the tech industry for the tech industry, but this strange dark material would also go on to turn the art world on its head.

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0:00.0

This is 99% invisible. I'm Roman Mars.

0:04.0

About a year ago, we released an episode in which I interviewed the author Cassia St. Clair about her book The Secret Lives of Color.

0:12.0

It was a conversation about the history and origins of different

0:15.4

colors throughout human existence. And during our talk, Cassie and I covered everything from

0:19.9

a type of purple that squeezed from sea snails to a shade of green that could literally

0:24.4

kill you.

0:25.8

But there was one pigment in particular from that episode that one of our producers here

0:30.2

at 99PI hasn't been able to stop thinking about.

0:34.0

Because it's bonkers.

0:36.2

Producer Vivian Lay.

0:38.2

It's called Vanta Black, and it's a pigment that reaches the level of darkness that's so intense, it's kind of upsetting.

0:45.2

It's so black, it's like looking at a hole cut out of the universe.

0:48.7

It's so black it's like looking at a portal into another dimension of nothingness. It's so black that if you stared it long enough you'll see your own

0:56.3

death. I can keep going. These metaphors are crummy but it's it's like this

1:01.2

philosophical abyss your eyes just fall into it.

1:04.0

This is Adam Rogers.

1:06.0

I'm a journalist. I'm a writer at Wired, and I write books sometimes too.

1:12.0

Rogers has written about Phantom Black for Wired because and I write books sometimes too.

1:13.0

Rogers has written about Vanta Black for Wired because when anyone sees it,

1:16.2

not just Vivian, they think it's bonkers.

1:19.1

It makes you rethink what Black means.

1:21.8

Vanta Black is striking when you look at it, even when you look at a picture of it, because it looks

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