You're listening to the CyberWireriefing from the International Spy Museum.

I'm Mark Stout, the Museum's historian.

Here at the museum, we get the most interesting authors,

including journalists, scholars, former spies,

and intelligence officers coming in

to speak with our visitors and answer questions about their latest

works dealing with espionage, intelligence, and other national security issues.

Please join me in listening to another of our selected hour-long author debriefings.

Well, good morning everybody. Welcome to the Spy Muse.

It's a nice day to be in here, actually.

Very nice outside.

Rainy day is a great day for

Spies dogs and newlyweds I suppose. Okay. I am absolutely delighted this morning to introduce a former colleague, friend and respected

now historian and author,. Thomas Bogard.

Thomas was with the museum as our historian for six years.

He wrote a book when he was here which was Spies of the Kaiser, German operations

in Great Britain during the First World War years, showing that both the Germans and the British

had exaggerated their successes

which was quite successful and I think very much respected by intelligence

historians. So I said Thomas what are you going to do next? And he said, well, I'm doing

some research on the Zimmerman telegram. Well, I couldn't think of anything that there would be

anything new that you could say about than the Zimmerman telegram.

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