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Canada’s Security Intelligence Service in the Post-Cold War World

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Education, News, History

4.41.7K Ratings

🗓️ 10 January 2013

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Canada’s Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) operates on a very different model from the American CIA, being neither strictly a foreign intelligence agency nor a domestic intelligence agency. Today SPY Historian Mark Stout discusses CSIS with Ray Boisvert, who was one of the founding members of the Service in 1984 and rose to become its Assistant Director, Intelligence, a position from which he retired in 2012. Hear them talk about the concept of “security intelligence” in a democratic society and explore the dilemmas which the Service faces in an era of terrorism emanating from groups such as al Qaeda and foreign covert influence from nation states.

Transcript

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0:00.0

You're listening to the CyberWire Network, powered by N2K. Hello and

0:25.0

welcome to Spycast from the Secret Files of the International Spy Museum in Washington, D.C.

0:29.0

I'm Mark Stout historian of the museum.

0:32.0

I'm a PhD author and historian who served for 13 years

0:34.9

as an analyst in the U.S. Intelligence community. Every month the museum brings you interesting

0:39.6

talks with authors, scholars, and practitioners who have something to do with the world of intelligence and espionage.

0:45.0

We're joined today by Ray Boavere from Canada.

0:52.0

Ray has recently retired in the spring of 2012 as assistant

0:56.8

director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service more commonly known

1:00.9

as CCSS, an acronym you'll be hearing, I'm sure,

1:04.1

repeatedly throughout this interview.

1:06.8

A Ray spent about 30 years with CESAS having joined it in 1984 when it was

1:12.3

actually first created.

1:14.3

Has held a variety of senior and working level

1:17.2

positions in the agency.

1:19.6

Before being assistant director for intelligence,

1:21.7

he was director general of the

1:22.9

Counter-Terrorist program. He worked overseas doing intelligence liaison and was

1:30.6

involved in a variety of other responsibilities and actually before joining CCS,

1:34.6

he was a member of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, the R.C.M.

1:38.0

So there's a lot to talk about here, so let's just jump into it.

1:40.7

Ray Boiswair, welcome to the International Spy Museum.

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