Hey folks, Ben Greenfield here. Today we're going to be talking about aging, aging, exercise,

hormones, and basically everything that happens as you get older. So this is a double interview

special. Our first interview is with Carrie Nozzler, a 65 year old super fit guy, and our

second interview is with Elizabeth Ruiz, an older female triathlete who specializes

in growth hormone. So without further ado, let's jump right in.

Hey folks, this is Ben Greenfield, and today we're going to be talking about aging and exercise.

I have a real expert on the call today, and his name is Carrie Nozzler. Carrie has been

a health reporter for close to 30 years. He's based out of California, and really health

and fitness have been something he's been involved in since he was a teenager. And you're

how old now, Carrie? 65. Gotcha. So Carrie's been doing this a while, and he's been pursuing

his own quest for better health, and really broadcasting lots of interviews with prominent

folks in the health field. He has a radio show down in California, and we'll be sure to

link to that from the show notes. It's called The Wide World of Health. It's for those

you who listen in, it's on a KSTE Talk 650. But what Carrie does is talk to people every

week about health, but he also has had exercise as a lifelong passion, and knows quite a bit

about kind of what happens to the body as you age, and you're trying to stay fit, what

goes on mentally, what goes on physically, what goes on from a motivational perspective.

And so those are some of the things that we'll be diving into today. So Carrie, thanks

for coming on the call. Well, Ben, thank you. I appreciate it very much.

So in terms of the length of time that you've been in fitness, 50-some odd years I would

imagine, do you still find it easy to stay motivated to exercise? Do you run into barriers

or do you just kind of hum merely along? I guess there's two parts to that question. One

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