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Today in Focus

The Zelenskyy-Trump deal

Today in Focus

The Guardian

Daily News, News

4.65.7K Ratings

🗓️ 6 May 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Is the mineral deal between Ukraine and the US a win-win? Andrew Roth reports. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/infocus

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0:00.0

This is The Guardian.

0:08.4

Today, after a very public buster and then a meeting at the Vatican,

0:13.4

how Ukraine and the world to a game of poker, and he told Vladimir Zelensky very publicly in the Oval Office that the Ukrainian president had no cards.

0:37.6

Let me tell you, you don't have the cards. With us, you have the cards. But without us,

0:42.7

you don't have any cards. The Zelensky needed to shut up and put up with a deal to give the

0:47.5

US access to potentially billions of dollars in mineral wealth under the Ukrainian ground.

0:54.4

But when that minerals deal was finally signed last week...

0:58.0

The US says it's ready to sign a much-anticipated resources deal with Ukraine.

1:02.5

Actually, it wasn't too bad for Ukraine.

1:05.3

The deal is said to provide for a 50-50 joint economic fund between Kyiv and Washington.

1:23.6

Nothing is ever guaranteed with Trump, but in Kiev, Zelensky is calling it a win, and so is the president in Washington. So how did Zelensky do it? What does it mean for the war? And what

1:29.3

will other countries be learning about the dilemma they're facing too? From The Guardian, I'm Michael

1:35.1

Safi. Today in focus, how do you make a deal with Donald Trump?

1:43.6

Andrew Roth, you're the Guardian's global Affairs Correspondent based in Washington, D.C.

1:48.0

You're the man trying to make sense of a lot of the madness that we see out of the White House over the past few months.

1:54.0

Last week we learned that the US was signing a Minerals deal with Ukraine.

1:59.0

How much of surprise was that announcement to you?

2:02.6

Yeah, I think, you know, the minerals deal was something that wasn't a surprise in

2:06.3

of itself. We knew that it was coming down the pipeline and that it had been under negotiation

2:10.4

for a long time. But I do think that it was a surprise for many people that they managed to

2:15.9

actually push it across the line.

2:18.8

And there's one real reason for that, and that's Donald Trump.

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