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Today in Focus

Sabotage and secret identities: Russia’s spy network

Today in Focus

The Guardian

Daily News, News

4.65.7K Ratings

🗓️ 5 May 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

Shaun Walker reports on the history of Russia’s ‘Illegals’ programme and what it looks like today. Help support our independent journalism at theguardian.com/infocus

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0:00.0

This is The Guardian.

0:08.5

Today, the extraordinary story of Russia's spy families.

0:16.4

One evening in August 2024, a plane lands at Moscow's Vnukova Airport, the doors open, and a series of people come down the steps towards a red carpet.

0:31.6

And among these people are a family of four. There are Argentinians. She's called Maria Meier.

0:39.3

He's called Ludwig Gish, and they're there with their two children.

0:42.3

And who is waiting for them, but Vladimir Putin, who hands Maria a big bouquet of flowers.

0:49.3

She looks shocked, overwhelmed, delighted.

0:52.3

The children look confused, overwhelmed,

0:56.5

don't quite know what's going on.

0:58.2

Putin bends down and kisses both of the children

1:00.9

and says to them,

1:02.9

Buenos nos notches.

1:10.1

The couple had just been released from a Slovenian prison after spending about a year and a half there,

1:17.9

and they were returned to Russia as part of a prisoner exchange because their real names were not Maria Mayer and Ludwig Gish.

1:27.0

They were in fact Anna and Ludwig Gish.

1:31.4

They were, in fact, Anna and Artion Dulcev.

1:39.1

And they were a couple of illegals, which is the Russian term for deep cover spies, who spend years and years posing as foreigners, in their case, as Argentinians and living in a foreign

1:47.2

country. The children were apparently only told that their parents, and indeed the whole

1:54.6

family, was in fact Russian and not Argentinian, on the plane to Moscow.

2:01.6

Sean Walker, the Guardian's former Moscow correspondent, and now our man in Eastern Europe, has been obsessed with spies like the Daltsev's for a decade now.

2:10.6

So obsessed, in fact, that he's now written a book about them.

2:14.6

It's called The Illegals, and it tells the story of these

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