And we're doing cushers. It's Chrissy here from the Under the Cush podcast. The show where

current and ex-professional footballers show their stories with other former professional footballers.

This episode gentleman who's brought to you get this by his majesty's prison and

probation service. Your dad used wicket prison service. Any Chris? Yeah, he enjoyed it. He came out

of football and the lads he worked with were more like a change of room environment and just

try to, you know, do good health people and come out better better people. Good career change as

well, if you feel like you need, you need something, you need a bit of purpose or whatever.

I think good reliable career. Does that believe as well? Many roles in the prison service don't,

they don't require specific qualifications either. I think there's training within.

Maybe you are looking for a change of vocation. If it sounds like you, just search prison jobs.

This is a paid advertisement from BetterHelp. Sam, is there ever a time in life when you know

what's good for you but your brain takes over and stops you from doing what you should be doing?

Yeah, all the time. I mean, this is something I've wrestled for years. Recently, my son had started

secondary school and he was getting on fine, coming back happy every night and yet nevertheless,

I was worried anyway. There was no apparent reason to be worried. He hadn't shown any signs or said

anything and yet it's just one of those things. I'd wear myself up about it. Yeah. Of course,

I see a therapist and I actually did speak to them about it and it helped me get on top of it.

Yeah. As soon as you start sharing it, solutions start to flow.

I always have a thing where if I've got to get up early and do something and I know I need to get

a good night's sleep, my brain just goes, no one's sleeping tonight. We're going to be up all night

dancing. But like you said, therapy therapy is really good. How do you figure out what's holding

your back? You can work for yourself instead of against yourself. And that's why we advocate

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