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White Lies

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White Lies

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True Crime

4.712.2K Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2019

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

In Episode 5, we search for the fourth attacker while digging into the murder of Jimmie Lee Jackson, a black civil rights activist who was murdered in Alabama just weeks before the Rev. James Reeb. Jackson's killer was brought to justice in 2010. We look at his case for strategies to help solve Reeb's.

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0:00.0

Previously on White Lives, they were murdered by hateful racist people. Their lives were

0:10.0

taken, not given. They were taken. Yet witnesses, this wasn't something that happened without

0:16.4

people seeing it. Well, the whole town knew it was a dull thing. I mean, it was celebration

0:23.2

time because they were found like guilty. So they were really lucky, but everybody lied,

0:29.8

so that's how they got to be lucky.

0:40.8

Francis Bowden, the chain-smoking sphinx of Washington Street, the eye witness who had seen it all,

0:46.9

had told us that it wasn't just the three men tried for murder, who detected Jim Reeb and the

0:51.3

other two ministers on the street that night. There had been a fourth man, and he was still alive.

0:57.3

But Francis said she'd never tell us who it was. She seemed to relish the fact that she knew

1:03.0

something we didn't, and it was clearly a source of enjoyment for her to lord it over us during

1:07.4

the time we spent visiting her before she went on the record. But it wasn't just Francis.

1:13.1

The story of the fourth man really was everywhere in our reporting. Clark and Orlov described

1:18.0

being attacked by four or five men, and in the FBI and DOJ records, it's clear they were trying

1:22.8

to identify another attacker. Knowing that there had been a fourth attacker was one thing,

1:28.0

finding him would be a different story altogether. Would it even be possible? Over 50 years had passed

1:34.3

since the night of the attack. But say we did find him. Could he even be held accountable after so

1:39.1

many years? Well, it turns out this question had played out in another cold case from the Civil

1:44.9

Rights era. Right here in the Black Belt of Alabama, one we've already talked about. A murder

1:49.5

directly tied to why Jim Reeb was in Selma in the first place. An Alabama jury has issued new

1:56.3

indictments in the 1965 death of Jimmy Lee Jackson. Jackson's death led to the march on Selma,

2:02.8

best known for its own violent ending on the Edmund Pettus Bridge. Jimmy Lee Jackson.

2:08.4

Remember that name? Of the deaths associated with the Voting Rights Campaign here in 1965,

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