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The Hello, welcome to Dakota the Gurus, a podcast.

We're an anthropologist and a psychologist, which is the greatest minds of the world has to offer,

and we try to understand what they're talking about.

I'm Matt Brown.

Chris Calvinar is my co-hosting crime.

Today we have a t-da-da-da-da-da-d-d-d-d-d-tit. It's a telex or a telegram or the bat phone.

There's a light. There's a spotlight shining into the sky, Chris, and it has called you.

Not the hero we want. God no, not by any means. But the hero we need. You're bringing us important news.

That's one way to put it. Yes, Lex Friedman has put out a remarkably self-serving segment,

reflecting on his interview with Zelensky. And he helpfully shoved it in at the end of a three or 40-minute interview

with somebody called Jennifer Burns, where they're discussing Anne Rand and Milton Friedman and

various other things. So I think I did not listen to and I hardly discourage anyone from listening

to. But the segment at the end is of interest to us,

because you know, you and I, we covered the original interview with Zelensky.

Our impression of Zelensky was good.

Yes.

We didn't have such a strong opinion of old Lexi and his conduct in that, too we?

No, not a fond opinion anyway.

But yes, so you can go back and listen to the supplementary material where we break down

that conversation.

But it was basically the criticisms were that Lex was not the unbiased, impartial love monster that they presented

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