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Decoding the Gurus

Peter Thiel: The Techno-Apocalypse is Nigh

Decoding the Gurus

Christopher Kavanagh and Matthew Browne

Science, Leisure, Social Sciences, Society & Culture

4.2 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2025

⏱️ 188 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Matt and Chris tackle the big ideas—or at least the ones rattling around in Peter Thiel’s mind. Tech billionaire, venture capitalist, and political kingmaker, Thiel has long been a looming figure in Silicon Valley, known for his deep pockets, contrarian takes, and peculiar philosophical musings. But beneath the surface-level libertarian posturing, what does Thiel actually believe? And does it hold up to scrutiny?

The decoders dig into Thiel’s recent interview on Uncommon Knowledge, where he waxes biblical about end times, interprets the katechon with all the confidence of a medieval theologian, and seamlessly blends venture capitalism with prophecies of the Antichrist.

Along the way, they explore Thiel’s method of connecting historical dots with pure vibes, and his Jetsons Fallacy, the deep disappointment that the world looks more like The Office than a 1960s vision of the future. They dissect the Sensemaker Aristocracy surrounding him—with its reverent back-patting and strange mix of deference and obfuscation that turns tech moguls into prophets. They also highlight Thiel’s bizarre leaps in logic, from citing biblical prophecies to warning about one-world free-trade Communist government conspiracies and his confusing stance on technological progress—simultaneously lamenting stagnation while fearing we’re racing too fast toward Armageddon.

Of course, no billionaire worldview would be complete without some COVID conspiracies, and Thiel delivers, crafting an elaborate Fauci Bioweapon Paradox in which the pandemic response was simultaneously overblown and also secretly justified because the virus was (obviously) engineered.

So is Peter Thiel a visionary? A libertarian Cassandra? Or just a very wealthy man with a lot of half-formed ideas and a habit of mumbling them into microphones? Matt and Chris wade through the mess so you don’t have to. Stay till the end for the Revolutionary Leprechaun Theory of Western Civilization… if you dare.

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0:00.0

I'm Hello and welcome to the coding the gurus podcast or an anthropologist and a psychologist

0:29.8

listen to the greatest minds the world has to offer trying to understand what they talk about.

0:34.5

As always on that brown, Chris, as always, is with me. No, I'm happy to

0:40.6

see you, Chris. You're an anthropologist, I'm a psychologist, and we're here to talk about a candidate

0:45.9

guru. He could be a guru. He might not be. We'll see. It probably is, isn't he? Probably is. Probably is.

0:52.2

Probably is. Yes, We promised that we would cover Curtis

0:59.0

Yorvin and Peter Teigle. We promised that we would do them for quite some time and we just

1:04.6

never got around to it because they're quite annoying people. But in this occasion, we decided it's

1:09.9

2025. We're going to be good boys, we're going to

1:12.8

keep their resolutions.

1:14.4

And even though Kurdish Orban was very annoying, we said, we must go back into those waters.

1:25.3

Our personal feelings, what we might prefer, that doesn't come into it.

1:29.1

We are servants to the discourse.

1:31.6

That's right.

1:32.4

Peter Thiel has been on the woods for a while.

1:35.3

He's a figure.

1:36.7

If you don't know who Peter Thiel is, then first of all, congratulations.

1:40.3

You're probably good job.

1:41.5

Good job.

1:42.0

You're better off not knowing.

1:43.4

But you probably heard the name and you might be a bit vague on some of the details.

1:49.0

So, Chris, what's the deal with Peter Deal?

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