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Lost Debate

The Worst Story of the Year

Lost Debate

The Branch

News, Politics, Society & Culture

4.6607 Ratings

🗓️ 10 December 2025

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

This episode takes a visit to the goonverse — a strange online world where hundreds of thousands of people spend hours chasing a “goon state,” a trance-like high reached through marathon adult video consumption. Ravi talks with reporter Daniel Kolitz, whose Harper’s article on this community has become a viral sensation: horrifying, riveting, and impossible to look away from. Together they explore what this subculture reveals about loneliness, post-lockdown life, and the dangers of instant, unlimited online pleasure crowding out real-world connection. It’s disturbing, darkly funny, and a warning sign about where we’re all heading. Daniel Kolitz’s The Goon Squad, (Harper’s, Nov 2025)  -- Leave us a voicemail with your thoughts on the show! 201-305-0084⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Ravi at @RaviMGupta Notes from this episode are also available on Substack: https://thelostdebate.substack.com/ Read more from Ravi on Substack: https://realravigupta.substack.com  Follow The Branch at @thebranchmedia Listen to more episodes of Lost Debate on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-lost-debate/id1591300785 Listen to more episodes of Lost Debate on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7xR9pch9DrQDiZfGB5oF0F Listen to Where the Schools Went: https://thebranchmedia.org/show/where-the-schools-went/

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0:00.0

Welcome to The Lost Debate, a show for Political Ecclectics.

0:03.3

I'm Robbie Gupta, and I'm not going to lie.

0:06.2

This is a strange episode, and if you have children around, you definitely don't want them

0:10.9

around for this one.

0:12.1

I am interviewing Daniel Colitz, who wrote the piece of the year, I have to say, in Harper's

0:18.3

magazine.

0:19.3

It's called The Goon Squad. And a lot of people have

0:22.4

started putting this on their best of year-end lists. And I'll just read you from Bloomberg,

0:28.3

who as I think they call it, the jealousy list, meaning the pieces they wish they had run. And this is

0:32.5

how they describe the piece that Daniel wrote. Daniel Colitz's deep dive into the world of porn obsessives,

0:39.4

his lurid and thralling reading. The subject matter might be a bit much for some readers,

0:44.3

but there's more here than meets the eye. The author and his subjects are wrestling with what it

0:48.9

means to be human in the face of an onslaught of technology capable of giving us exactly

0:53.2

what we want whenever we want.

0:55.3

What does it all cost?

0:56.8

We're only beginning to learn.

0:58.9

That is an excellent way to summarize why I wanted to talk to Daniel.

1:02.5

This is a piece that I was sent multiple times in the same day from people being like,

1:07.0

what the heck is this?

1:08.9

And I have to say, like, outside of, like, reading about, like, historic atrocities,

1:14.1

this was the most uncomfortable, saddest read that I can remember,

1:19.1

but also illuminating and really important.

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