Hi Paul. Hi Ardly. How are you doing? I'm doing great. How are you? I'm so good. It's so great to have you on Small Town Dicks. Oh I am so happy to be here. So we want to know how did we persuade you to join us here on Small Town Dicks. Oh it was it was a lot of arm twisting. Not the truth.

Well what has always impressed me about Small Town Dicks is the professionalism. First you have your authenticity. You know Dan and Dave, myself we come out of real crime. We've had real experiences. And so the audience, the listeners are getting from Small Town Dicks. What actually happens out there. Not something that's been glamorized. But also you guys don't exploit the cases. You're empathetic to the victims. And this is what I'm all about. And I know that people who know me from

other projects, they will truly see that when they start listening to Small Town Dicks. That's an incredible endorsement. Dan and Dave tell the fine people about some Patreon. Where Paul Holes also joins us on quite a few nuggety nuggets. For just five bucks a month you'll have access to an assortment of bonus episodes, outtakes, listener questions, special series.

All Town Fam you get everything Dave said and your hard earned money goes to support our incredible staff behind the scenes to give you this podcast that we all love. So please join us at patreon.com slash Small Town Dicks.

Now we have experienced almost like many of us have seen a fair bit. But the brutality, the violence shown to these girls, the deposition of the

way that all evidence had been removed. This was a cold and calculated brutal killing of these two young girls. And I'm not sure if you guys know what I'm talking about.

The way that all evidence had been removed. This was a cold and calculated brutal killing of these two young girls.

When a serious crime is committed in a small town, a handful of detectives are charged with solving the case. I'm Yardley and I'm fascinated by these stories. So I invited my friends detectives Dan and Dave to help me gather the best true crime cases from around the country

and have the men and women who investigated them tell us how it happened.

I'm Dan and I'm Dave, where identical twins from Small Town USA. Dave investigated sex crimes and crimes against children. He's now a patrol sergeant at his police department.

Dan investigated violent crimes. He's now retired. Together we have more than two decades experience and have worked hundreds of cases.

We've altered names, places, relationships, and certain details in these cases to maintain the privacy of the victims and their families.

So we ask you to join us in protecting their true identities as well as the locations of these crimes out of respect for everyone involved. Thank you.

Today on Small Town Dicks, we have the usual suspects. We have Detective Dan. Good morning. Good morning. So nice to see you. Great to be here. And we have Detective Dave. Happy to be back with the team.

Oh, it's so good. We have the A-team today and Small Town fam. Oh my God. I really can hardly contain my excitement. I am so thrilled to welcome a new guest to the podcast, but they're not even in the United States.

We've gone all the way across to Europe to get retired deputy chief Constable Tom, who is in Scotland. That's right. Good morning, Tom. Good morning. Well, good evening.

Yes, evening for you. We're all on Zoom, of course. And so as I always say, as we record during the pandemic, you might hear cats wandering through dogs, garbage trucks, you know, the usual life.

Police helicopters a lot to hear in Los Angeles. Yes. So Tom, without further ado, I'm just going to let you take it away.

Thank you very much. And thank you for inviting me to join you today. Scotland, for those of you who don't know it is a small country, five million inhabitants. And most of the country is the wild highlands. It was a beautiful part of the world.

Two and a half million of our population are spread between the two big cities Edinburgh and Glasgow in the central belt of the lowlands.

Glasgow is an industrial city, shipbuilding, iron and steel and coal and all that. And Edinburgh is very much a city of academia and the law, tourism and the arts.

And between Edinburgh and Glasgow, as I say, about half the population of Scotland.

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