The World is Made of Code! Sam Arbesman - #538
Into the Impossible With Brian Keating
Brian Keating
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🗓️ 2 February 2026
⏱️ 73 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Right, that's it. Come on. Lights out. You've got a test tomorrow. Just two minutes. I'm about to reach the next level. It's going off now. Yeah, whatever. Let's see. Where's the app? Oh, here it is. What? How? Oh, no. You're out. Better look next time. Mom! It's game over for late nights on school nights. EE Wi-Fi controls help you get them off the Wi-Fi and into bed. |
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| 0:58.9 | Code. |
| 0:59.4 | It's the closest thing humans have ever invented to magic. |
| 1:02.1 | You write symbols on a screen and reality emerges. |
| 1:04.9 | Money moves, doors unlock, planes land, diseases get diagnosed, |
| 1:09.2 | and most of us have no idea how it actually works. |
| 1:12.6 | Today's conversation is about why code feels magical and why that feeling is both powerful and also dangerous. |
| 1:18.6 | In a moment, you'll hear why the real risk of code is an artificial intelligence. |
| 1:22.6 | It's scale, tiny ideas multiplied across billions of lives. |
| 1:26.6 | My guest is Sam Arbisman, |
| 1:28.5 | complexity scientist and author of The Magic of Code, a book about how software quietly became |
| 1:34.2 | the most influential force shaping modern civilization. Magic and sorcery, oftentimes in our |
| 1:39.4 | stories, they require a great deal of effort and training. And so, like, you have to go to Hogwarts |
| 1:43.7 | for seven years, to really know magic and wizardry very well. And so like, you have to go to Hogwarts for seven |
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