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The World As It Is: Was Benghazi the beginning of Trump?

Shadow Kingdom

Crooked Media

Society & Culture, History, True Crime, Documentary

4.74K Ratings

🗓️ 22 August 2018

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Ben Rhodes talks to Pod Save America co-host and former U.S. National Security Council spokesperson Tommy Vietor about what the media gets wrong about Benghazi, how that moment led to Trump as president, and what it’s like "running" the Deep State.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Ben Rhodes and you're listening to Cook It Conversations.

0:08.6

I wrote a book and recently published a book called The World As It Is about the Obama

0:12.9

White House.

0:14.5

And with this series we're taking a deeper dive on some of the issues and themes and

0:19.9

stories that come up in my book.

0:22.7

And I've been joined by some of the people who were there with me throughout the eight

0:26.6

years in the Obama White House.

0:28.7

And over the course of these episodes we've heard about what was like to write speeches

0:32.0

for President Obama.

0:33.5

We've looked at the Russian intervention in the 2016 election.

0:37.0

We've talked about the U.S. negotiations with Cuba and President Obama's trip to Havana

0:41.9

in 2016.

0:43.5

Today on the show I'm talking to Tommy Vittor, who was my wingman in the White House,

0:50.0

my deputy for a number of years when he was spokesperson for the National Security

0:53.8

Council before he was saving the world through his podcast.

0:59.4

And today we're going to talk about Benghazi.

1:06.8

Alright so Tommy, thanks for joining me to relive one of the most enjoyable parts of our

1:12.4

job.

1:14.6

So I wanted to look at Benghazi and just to situate the listener whether you're a regular

1:21.7

listener to crooked or a troll who's tuning in just for this episode.

1:25.5

Hello, Ben Shapiro.

1:26.5

You were the NSE spokesperson.

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