The World After Oct. 7, 2023

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🗓️ 7 October 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Tuesday marks two years since Hamas’s attack on Israel on Oct. 7, 2023. Since then, Israel has decimated Gaza in what many independent organizations are calling a genocide and attacked several countries in the region. How have all of these events impacted the world? FP columnist Stephen M. Walt sits down with Ravi Agrawal to share his take. John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt: The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy Stephen M. Walt: Meet the New Middle East, Same as the Old Middle East Steven A. Cook: The Delusions Driving U.S. Policy in the Middle East Pankaj Mishra: How Gaza Shattered the West’s Mythology Emma Ashford: What Was the Tipping Point on Gaza? John Haltiwanger: Why Israel’s War in Gaza Has Been So Deadly for Journalists Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:46.5	Hi, I'm Ravi Agrawal, Foreign Policies Editor-in-Chief.
0:51.3	This is FP Live.
0:56.0	Exactly two years ago on October 7, 2023, Hamas crossed into Israel and killed around
1:02.7	1,200 people. There's no other way to put this. It was an awful, inhumane attack.
1:10.6	That day also triggered a chain reaction of other awful things.
1:16.4	Between airstrikes and ground incursions,
1:18.8	more than 65,000 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza.
1:23.1	Agencies including an Israeli human rights group
1:25.8	and the UN Commission of Inquiry say that Israel is committing a genocide.
1:32.3	It's estimated that 90% of homes in Gaza have been damaged or destroyed.
1:38.3	UN food security experts say there is a famine in Gaza City.
1:43.3	There have also been ripple effects far beyond Gaza.
1:47.9	There was a war with Iran, which the United States got directly involved in. Israel conducted
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