"The words of the Bible are kryptonite to his authoritarian project"
Deadline: White House
Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW
4.5 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 16 April 2026
⏱️ 41 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, everyone. It's Fort Rock in New York. News cycle by news cycle, Donald Trump is finding out that the words of the Bible are kryptonite to his authoritarian project. In his standoff with Pope Leo over whether Donald Trump's already deeply unpopular |
| 0:22.7 | war of choice in Iran is justified, Donald Trump and his allies are learning that their |
| 0:28.0 | school year bullying tactics will not work against someone who can't be pressured or intimidated |
| 0:33.7 | or bought, and someone who happens to be much more popular and beloved than Donald Trump. |
| 0:39.8 | The Pope today, sounding undeterred by J.D. Vance's stern warning that he, the Pope, should be, quote, |
| 0:47.0 | careful when it comes to matters of theology. Pope Leo quoting the Bible against Team Trump, |
| 0:53.2 | and then going a little bit further. Watch. |
| 0:56.9 | Jesus told us, blessed are the peacemakers, but woe to those who manipulate religion |
| 1:03.3 | in the very name of God for their own military, economic or political gain, dragging that which is sacred into darkness and |
| 1:13.7 | filth. |
| 1:14.2 | The world is being ravaged by a handful of tyrants. |
| 1:18.8 | It is held together by a multitude of supportive brothers and sisters. |
| 1:25.4 | Pope was speaking those remarks in Cameroon, a country ruled by an authoritarian for decades now, |
| 1:32.0 | but what he said could just as easily be applied to and intended to be directed at Donald Trump. |
| 1:39.0 | The pontiff's ex-account posted those same comments online just minutes after Defense Secretary Pete Hegeseth made an analogy |
| 1:46.0 | that put Trump in the place of Jesus Christ at a press briefing. |
| 1:50.0 | I sat there in church and I thought, our press are just like these Pharisees. |
| 1:57.0 | Not all of you, not all of you, but the legacy Trump hating press. |
| 2:05.6 | Your politically motivated animus for President Trump nearly completely blinds you from the brilliance of our American warriors. |
| 2:14.6 | The Pharisees scrutinized every good act in order to find a violation, |
| 2:21.5 | only looking for the negative. The hardened hearts of our press are calibrated only to impugn. |
| 2:30.8 | I would ask you to open your eyes to the goodness, the historic success of our troops, the courage of this president. |
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