"In and out (and back in) of Trump's doghouse"
Deadline: White House
Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW
4.5 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 16 April 2026
⏱️ 43 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | If it comes out that it's true that there are people in leadership positions who are |
| 0:09.0 | retaliating on those who report problems, who are creating this culture of retribution, |
| 0:16.0 | then they should be immediately removed from that position. |
| 0:20.0 | If it happens to be true, then those people should be immediately removed from that position. |
| 0:25.4 | If it happens to be true, then those people should be removed. |
| 0:30.8 | Hi again, everybody. It's now five o'clock in New York. You don't say. If only we could have that person back, that version of Tulsi Gabbard, a committed defender of whistleblowers. |
| 0:38.1 | If only we could put back Tulsi Gabbard in the same room with this Tulsi Gabbard, a committed defender of whistleblowers. If I'm going to put back Tulsi Gabbard in the same room with this Tulsi Gabbard, |
| 0:41.5 | the Director of National Intelligence, who now appears to be going about doing precisely what you just heard her rail against. |
| 0:48.7 | Our MSN now colleagues are reporting this afternoon this, quote. |
| 0:52.2 | Tulsi Gabbard has sent criminal referrals to the Justice Department related to a former |
| 0:56.1 | intelligence community inspector general and a whistleblower whose complaint helped trigger |
| 1:01.0 | the first impeachment of Donald Trump. |
| 1:03.2 | The criminal referral was first reported by Fox News. |
| 1:06.3 | A spokesperson for Tulsi Gabbard's office confirmed to MS now that she had sent a criminal referral to the |
| 1:12.1 | Justice Department but declined to provide further details. We will address the why in a moment, but first, |
| 1:18.1 | the why now? Understand that over the past year, Tulsi Gabbard has been in and then out and then |
| 1:24.4 | back in Donald Trump's political doghouse. So it was of note this week when Tulsi Gabbard released documents, she insists expose a deep state |
| 1:34.0 | conspiracy related to Trump's first impeachment. |
| 1:37.5 | Two problems, though. |
| 1:38.6 | One, those documents provide zero evidence of any such direct coordination. |
| 1:43.2 | And two, they include glowing descriptions of the whistleblower provided by his or her colleagues, |
| 1:48.8 | quote, a star performer who was, quote, very detailed oriented, deliberate, methodical, and very squared away. |
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