The Womanosphere Claims It's Winning Young Women—But Is It?

Diabolical Lies

Katie Gatti Tassin & Caro Claire Burke

Society & Culture, News

4.8 • 607 Ratings

🗓️ 13 July 2025

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Summary

In this conversation…

It’s the grassroots sensation sweeping the internet and, by extension, the culture—proof that conservative values are mainstream, conservative women are hot, and their rapidly proliferating attendant movement is finally overpowering the excesses of liberalism. “We aren’t running from culture anymore,” as Alex Clark put it, “We’re running it.” They’re courageous enough to stand up for countercultural ideas like, “Women should be wives and mothers,” or, “White people are superior,” and there’s one thing they want to make absolutely sure you know: They’re taking over.

…or are they?

What do “conservative values” mean in this context? What does it mean to be a conservative, when the tent has metastasized beyond the point of recognizable cohesion? And most importantly, is there any proof that this “movement” is growing more popular with young women? Diabolical Lies investigates.

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0:00.0	Today's episode of Diabolical Lies was brought to you by hot pink maga hats,
0:04.9	the sticker manufacturer being kept in business solely by Turning Point USA conferences,
0:10.3	Charlie Kirk's orthodontist's file in the Witness Protection Program,
0:14.3	and that's right, folks, Barry Weiss again somehow.
0:19.1	Barry Weiss again somehow. Wow, she is really driving our reporting forward at every step of the way.
0:25.2	Caro, before we get into it today, do you want to share a little housekeeping update for subscribers?
0:31.8	Yes. As a reminder, this podcast is completely funded and supported by you guys, the subscribers, if you want to sign up,
0:38.9	you can do so through the Apple iTunes subscription option or through our substack if you want to
0:43.5	access the chat features in the community, which is always hop in. We're very proud of that.
0:47.8	This previous month, our paid episode was about Sabrina Carpenter and kind of the politics of
0:51.5	pop star sexuality. We talked for a long time about that. And we
0:54.3	also did a bonus episode about Zoran Mamdani and how he has been treated in the press and what we can kind of learn from that. So if you want to listen to those, you can sign up and let us know if there's something you want us to cover. We want to always keep it as call and responsey as we can. But it's been really fun to see this community take a pretty big jump over the past six weeks.
1:13.6	So for today, my goal for this episode was to approach the recent Turning Point USA Women's Conference
1:20.5	and this broader phenomenon of what has been called cultural conservatism, like an anthropologist would.
1:28.7	You're like Jane Goodall.
1:31.6	The Jane Goodall of conservative ladies of like bad girl Suzanne Lamberts, inside out, Suzanne Lamberts.
1:39.7	Sorry, I have to continue the bit.
1:41.5	Katie's like, Katie's like in like a poorly decorated D.C. Marriott ballroom.
1:47.5	And these women, these conservative young college girls are like carefully walking up to her and like taking food from her hands and then like explaining why they voted for Trump.
1:56.3	Okay, I'm done.
1:57.7	I'm done.
1:58.5	Oh, my God.
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