Today's episode of Diabolical Lies is brought to you by Madonna, Bell Hooks, Britney Spears, Diane Sawyer, Rolling Stone Magazine, Taylor Swift, Sabrina Carpenter, Margaret Atwood, and the Disney Industrial Complex for teaching me how to be a woman.

Oh, God.

Katie, I spent the whole weekend, like most Americans, just wondering if we were about to start another

Forever War in the Middle East.

And I just thought, you know what we need to do right now is have a discourse about Sabrina

Carpenter.

So that's by which I mean, the outline was already written by the time all of this happened.

It's like that tweet that's like, Sabrina Carpenter is setting us back.

Bitch, we are bombing Iran right now. Perfect. Okay, thank you. You just tied it together. I actually

was going to figure it out in the fly, but now you just did my work for me. So if you're listening to

this on Apple Podcasts, which I assume most of you are, you might not realize that kind of the real

goodies and the real party are happening over on Substack. So you'll obviously hear the first,

however long of this episode. This is a paid episode for our paid subscribers. But if you would

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subscriber plan so you can get full access to all episodes. Yeah, it's going to get juicy

at the end, so you're not going to want to miss it. Katie, what do you know about Sabrina Carpenter?

She came into my awareness because

she was the blonde girl and driver's license. So I will say, my guard was up on Olivia's behalf.

I think she became popular when she opened for Taylor Swift on the heiress tour. That felt kind of

like the moment where she went from being a

little more niche to being like a mainstream pop star. And then she gave us espresso song of the

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