The Internet Has a Porn Problem—Just Not the One You Think
Diabolical Lies
Katie Gatti Tassin & Caro Claire Burke
4.8 • 607 Ratings
🗓️ 27 July 2025
⏱️ 23 minutes
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Summary
In this conversation…
The feminist movement has never quite known what to do about porn. Some have argued that it’s a civil rights violation for women, while others have argued that any effort to ban or censor it will only end up serving the material goals of a deeply patriarchal and surveillance-minded state.
So…which is it?
Today’s conversation is about…
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| 0:00.0 | Today's episode of Diabolical Lies is brought to you by a new and deeply beloved sponsor, Love Island USA. |
| 0:07.3 | Katie, I made you watch an episode or two. I don't know how many you ended up watching, but I made you watch an episode of Love Island in advance of the conversation we're going to have today. |
| 0:17.1 | And I would just like to start out by hearing just some top-level thoughts of what your |
| 0:21.0 | experience was while watching it. It was so loud and so neon. I could not get over just how |
| 0:31.1 | uncanny the set felt. Like I was like, what am I looking at? Thomas came home from work |
| 0:36.6 | towards the middle of the first episode of season six, and he was like, what am I looking at? Thomas came home from work towards the middle of the first episode of season six. |
| 0:40.6 | And he was like, wait, they all sleep in the same room. |
| 0:44.4 | And I was like, I actually cannot think of something that I would dislike more than sleeping in a full-size bed with a stranger in a room full of other strangers sleeping in |
| 0:56.3 | full-sized beds. That is my personal hell. So I'm going to describe the show at length later on |
| 1:01.7 | in our conversation today for anyone who hasn't watched it, but just a little tidbit. The show airs |
| 1:05.7 | every night and it basically airs live. So they are over there recording and like some sweatshop of producers is |
| 1:12.4 | editing this content that you get six fresh episodes a week, which is pretty wild. Basically, |
| 1:17.4 | yeah, by the end of each season, which is like episode 25 or 26, you see that all the contestants |
| 1:22.7 | are wearing like little earbuds that they don't listen to each other having sex. So, |
| 1:26.7 | oh my God. No, I just like, |
| 1:31.1 | I literally had a stomachache watching that. I was like, the way that I would just be so nauseous |
| 1:36.7 | in that room at all times. The way that I was really pushing your and my internalized Catholicism |
| 1:42.3 | during our Lily Phillips episode is going to happen again today to great degree. |
| 1:46.3 | I texted Kara when I said, this show is going to make me a conservative, and it's going to be your fault. |
| 1:52.0 | It's so funny. Also, someone pointed out, I don't know if you've checked Instagram. Many people have pointed out that if you can watch Love Island, you can find time for Veep. So think about it. |
| 2:01.5 | Oh, I have a very important announcement to make to everybody. |
| 2:07.7 | Shut the fuck up. Last night, I finished season two of Veep. Wait. So I'm on the Veep train, guys. |
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