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The Woke Right's Elitist Coup: Inside the MAGA Civil War

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🗓️ 23 May 2025

⏱️ 136 minutes

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The New Discourses Podcast with James Lindsay, Ep. 166 MAGA is in danger. It isn't just the attack from the Woke Left that it has to worry about these days, either. There's an internal coup attempt happening, trying to take over MAGA from within and steal its thunder. In a recent big essay published on New Discourses (read it here), James Lindsay explains in unprecedented detail what Woke is, how it operates as a false-elitist cult, how it manifests on both Left and Right, and finally, how the Woke Right is using a mechanism called "elitist capture" to run a four-step coup of MAGA and America that has sparked a "MAGA Civil War" in response. In this episode of the New Discourses Podcast, Lindsay, as host, reads the near-final draft of this essay with minimal additional commentary. Join him to learn about the threat to MAGA and America coming from the Woke Right and its attempted coup. New book! The Queering of the American Child: https://queeringbook.com/ Support New Discourses: https://newdiscourses.com/support Follow New Discourses on other platforms: https://newdiscourses.com/subscribe Follow James Lindsay: https://linktr.ee/conceptualjames © 2025 New Discourses. All rights reserved. #NewDiscourses #JamesLindsay #wokeright #maga

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0:00.0

Hey everybody, this is James Lindsay, and you are listening to the New Discourses podcast.

0:24.4

This episode is actually going to be kind of almost an audiobook for an essay I recently wrote,

0:29.8

so I'm not going to give you a whole lot of preamble. I'm just going to read this long essay.

0:34.3

The essay has 17,500 words, so this is, you know, roughly a third of a standard

0:39.9

book. So the essays in four chapters. I'm not going to break this into four different

0:46.1

podcasts, but I'm going to try to read the whole thing in one go. The name of the essay is

0:52.3

The Woke writes elitist coup inside the MAGA Civil War, which is trying

0:58.5

to articulate what's going on with the woke right and MAGA overall.

1:02.7

So rather than summarizing and describing that, I'm just going to go ahead and read.

1:09.2

By necessity we begin here. Most of MAGA is not woke right. Few conservatives even

1:15.9

lean woke right. Only some people claiming to be Christians, whether that's rightly or wrongly,

1:22.1

are woke right. So who is and who isn't woke right? And what is its relationship to MAGA and to conservatism?

1:30.3

What is woke?

1:32.3

How is it waging a revolution against MAGA and conservatism?

1:36.3

And how is that revolution proceeding so far?

1:39.3

At what stage in the revolution is the woke right at present?

1:45.0

In other words, as everyone is asking, everywhere I go, what the hell is going on?

1:51.0

My objective in this very long piece is to lay out the case about woke in detail, in such a way that it allows me to explain what is going on with the woke

2:01.4

right in both MAGA and the broader conservative movement right now, which is nothing

2:06.7

short of a revolutionary coup by radicals for control over this half of American politics,

2:13.3

if not American and all of Western life.

2:16.8

My essential claim is that the radical woke

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