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The Babylon Bee

The Woke Cult: The James Lindsay Interview

The Babylon Bee

Seth Dillon

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Comedy

4.42.9K Ratings

🗓️ 15 July 2020

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

This is the Babylon Bee Interview Show.

In this episode of The Babylon Bee Podcast, editor-in-chief Kyle Mann and creative director Ethan Nicolle talk to James Lindsay, one of the actors involved with the Greivance Study Papers affair in which they got a bunch of peer-reviewed papers published by inserting woke language into stuff they just made up. They talk about the cult of wokeness, its ideology and its tactics, and also about how the landscape of Christianity is kind of like Narnia to an atheist.

Lindsay’s latest book with Helen Pluckrose is Cynical Theories: How Activist Scholarship Made Everything about Race, Gender, and Identity―and Why This Harms Everybody and is available for pre-order.

Topics Discussed

  • The State of academia and the workplace

  • White fragility

  • Brown fragility

  • White neurosis and the ‘racial cray-cray’

  • Minoritized

  • Building a bullet train to the bad old times

  • Woke-ism as a new or replacement religion and its parallels with cults

  • NewDiscourses.com and James’ ever-changing encyclopedia of work terminology

  • Finding identities that unify everyone in religion (supernaturally) or nationally or in humanity (naturally) vs. fracturing over identity groups that must speak “authentically” or else get cancelled

  • Politically black vs racially black?

  • Why does BLM want to eliminate the western nuclear family?

  • The academic origins of intersectionality, critical theory, etc.

  • Traditional theory and critical theory- the normative vision and seeking out problematics

  • Wokeness from false consciousness

  • Atheists and Christians are friends now?

  • The left eating itself- the fracturing of critical theory and trans/queer theory and post-colonial theory- Subscriber Portion

  • Quizzing James Lindsay on woke terms in his encyclopedia

  • Critical theory meets the church i.e. Emerging Church 2.0 (More institutionally powerful and worse)

  • The Ten Questions

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Real People Real Interviews

0:04.0

I just have to say that I object

0:07.0

Strain you as late to your use of the word Galarius.

0:10.0

Hard-hitting questions.

0:12.0

What do you think about feminism?

0:14.0

Do you like it?

0:15.0

Taking you to the cutting edge of truth.

0:18.0

Yeah, well last Jedi is one of the worst movies ever made

0:21.0

and it was very clear that Ryan Johnson doesn't like Star Wars.

0:25.0

Kyle pulls no punches.

0:27.0

I want to ask how you're able to sleep at night.

0:30.0

He's a brings bone-shattering common sense from the top rope.

0:35.0

If I may, how double dare you?

0:38.0

This is the Babylon B Interview Show.

0:46.0

Hi everybody, welcome to the Babylon B Interview Show.

0:48.0

Today we're talking to a returning guest, James Lindsay.

0:52.0

That's Kyle Mann and I'm Ethan Nicole.

0:54.0

Hi.

0:56.0

James Lindsay is what you guys saw him if you ever actually didn't see him.

1:00.0

He's back when we were doing pure audio podcasts.

1:02.0

We had him and his associate Peter Rogozion.

1:05.0

They're well known for the grievance studies papers where they punked the academic.

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