The Woke Burnout Is Real — and Politics Is Catching Up

Matter of Opinion

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Ross Douthat, News, New York Times, Journalism

4.2 • 7.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 September 2023

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Classrooms have been a key battleground in the so-called woke wars for years now. But could the debate over how schools teach history, race, gender and sexuality be coming to an end? This week on “Matter of Opinion,” the hosts look at signs that these wedge issues are no longer dividing us, ask whether we have reached “peak woke” and disagree on whether it’s even worth fighting about wokeness at all.

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0:00.0	Daddy, what did you do during the woke war?
0:04.0	I wrote sternly worded columns.
0:07.0	From New York Times' opinion, I'm Michelle Kotl.
0:12.0	I'm Ross Douthup.
0:14.0	I'm Carlos Lozada.
0:15.0	And I'm Lydia Polgreens.
0:17.0	And this is a matter of opinion.
0:25.0	Okay guys, I gotta say, I'm sad the summer is basically over.
0:29.0	Are everybody's kids getting settled back into school?
0:32.0	Yep, back to school night.
0:35.0	Coming up.
0:36.0	It's a school night, Ross.
0:38.0	Our three year old has entered school for the first time.
0:42.0	Congratulations.
0:43.0	Our 12 year old is entering middle school for the first time.
0:47.0	I'm so sorry.
0:48.0	And I have nothing to say about either.
0:50.0	It's a real good news, scary news.
0:52.0	It's a lot of change.
0:54.0	And I'm against change as a conservative.
0:57.0	So it's a rough, it's a rough period.
0:59.0	Your anti change.
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