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Matter of Opinion

Is It Time to Negotiate With Putin?

Matter of Opinion

New York Times Opinion

Society & Culture, Ross Douthat, News, New York Times, Journalism

4.27.2K Ratings

🗓️ 31 August 2023

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

It’s been 18 months since Russia invaded Ukraine. No true negotiations have happened. As the stalemate continues, what role should the United States play in the fight? This week on “Matter of Opinion,” the hosts discuss how the war is playing out at home and whether there’s actually more American enthusiasm for invading Mexico. Plus, a trip back in time to a magical land of sorcerers and “Yo! MTV Raps.”

Transcript

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0:00.0

From New York Times' opinion, I'm Ross Douthit.

0:06.7

I'm Carlos Lozada.

0:07.9

I'm Lydia Polgren.

0:09.4

And this is Matter of Opinion.

0:17.6

So Michelle is out this week.

0:19.3

Miss you, Michelle.

0:20.3

Miss you, Michelle.

0:21.3

Which means she's going to miss our conversation about Putin and the war in Ukraine.

0:27.1

And we'll get into the war itself in a moment, the situation on the front, how the war is

0:31.7

going, maybe not so well, and how it might actually end.

0:37.4

But I want to start with someone who, to me, has always been one of the most interesting

0:42.1

characters in this whole conflict.

0:45.0

That's the head of the Wagner group, which is the Russian mercenary outfit that's played

0:49.8

a big role in the fighting throughout the conflict.

0:52.6

But Yevgeny Pregozion, who died last week in what I think it's fair to call an extremely

0:58.4

suspicious plane crash.

1:01.0

The guy who tried to overthrow Putin dies in a plane crash two months later.

1:05.8

Who could have foreseen it?

1:06.8

Who could have foreseen it?

1:07.8

Entirely coincidentally.

1:08.8

Yes.

1:09.8

The guy who launched a weird, maybe sort of coup against Putin dies in an unexpected accident.

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