Okay, we are live. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates on today's show of a very special guest. He comes to us from the great state of Alabama. His name is Hans G. Shantz, S-C-H-A-N-T-Z. He published a book recently in the last couple of years and the full title of the book is the

wise of heart a modern day reimagining of the scopes monkey trial and it's very well illustrated

and i think it's timely too with all so many things if you've listened to my show over the years

i've covered a lot of transgender stuff with

Roberta Glass, the True Crime Report, and some of these other things.

So it keeps recurring in the news.

I covered a transgender bad guy in Oxford, UK.

His name was Scarlet Blake.

And in the court, it kind of overlaps with this, believe or not, the court they wouldn't tell his actual birth name they said his transitioned male to female name so the female name and it's unbelievable that they even in this august body in the UK they couldn't just objectively say this guy was once a man and this was his

birth name. And honestly, I couldn't find it out even in the newspapers. So it's like,

people are afraid or they're conditioned or whatever to really walk tenderly around this.

I got in trouble for using the word T R-A-A-N-N-Y last week and cannot have

casual you in a casual thing online like it's in reference to somebody somebody

really got upset so it's a it's a sensitive subject people watch my show I did a

show on the Zizians and you know just a lot of different things going on but I'm glad he wrote this book

it's not his first book he writes on a wide variety of different subjects some of his other

books are science fiction he's done academic work one is the art and science of ultra wide

bag and tennis also a biography of John C. Fremont.

That should be interesting if you know Fremont.

And then book three books of science fiction techno thrill are the hidden truth,

the rambling wreck, and the brave and the bold.

But again, we're going to talk about this book, The Wise of Heart,

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