All right, 321. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates on tonight show. I have a very special guest, a returning guest. His name is Johnny Sarucci. We talked a couple weeks ago about one of his earlier books titled Eaters of Children and its relationship to the Jeffrey Epstein saga. And that kind of theme was an important one to kind of look into in modern context with what's been revealed about Jeffrey Epstein.

But tonight we're going to talk about a book he recently published, published December 14th, 2019.

The title of that book is Romans of Mass Destruction, How the Vatican Created and Enabled

Some of History's Most Monstrous Serial Killers.

And I read the book in its entirety.

It's an excellent book.

And like his other books, very well researched and footnoted and referenced, which I really

do appreciate.

Some books do not have, aren't as skilled and serious

about referencing, but Johnny has that aspect to his writing, which I appreciate. But there are so many

names that I had heard, but not heard them in such context. And the book is really a volume one.

It's ending, end sometime in the 17th century.

So there are a bunch of different names from different countries such as Italy, France, Romania, and covers a wide variety of topics.

Some of the names you might have heard, but we're going to discuss those and just try to get into some of the materials so johnny are you there i am well i i am very pleased to be back with you and

again thank you for your help with the book your recommendation is my top recommendation on the

on the on the back cover awesome yeah well I appreciate I'm glad to be of

help so for people who may not have heard you in the earlier shows can you talk a little bit

about your background some of the books you've written and also how you decided to

write about the material in Romans of mass destruction sure you. I born and raised Italian Roman Catholic in the Northeast,

and conservative, quote-unquote conservative household, and encouraged me to be patriotic,

and that led me into a career in the military. I became frustrated. Well,

let's see, before my career in the military, in and out of college, I eventually did four,

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