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Hello and welcome to a very, very special 4th of July wine edition of Slate Money,

which is normally your guide to the business and finance news of the week,

but this week is just about my favorite subject, which is wine, and specifically about rosé wine. I am sitting here

in this late studios on the 4th of July with the one and only Kathy O'Neill, the blog at mathbabe.org.

Glad to be here, Felix.

And with Jordan Weissman, a moneybox columnist for Slate.

Glad to see you, Felix.

And before Jordan starts making snarky comments, I have to introduce the one and only Carl Storchman, who is the, what, managing editor of the greatest journal in the world, which is the Journal of the American Association of Wine Economists.

And if you aren't on Carl's A-A-W-E-E-E-mail list, I can assure you you are missing out because this is awesome stuff.

And I'm super, super happy that Carl is here with us.

Thank you very much, Felix.

Oh, and also you're a genuine economic professor at NYU as well, just, you know, right.

So...

There's that. There's that. It's not all, it's not just about wine. So this is the wine edition. We, we, we, I decided on the spur of the moment last week that after we were talked about beer for a little bit, which is, as Carl will agree, you know, not remotely as interesting.

It's kind of inferior, right?

Inferior, yeah.

Wow.

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