The Wildest Stories of Corporate Espionage We’ve Ever Heard

My First Million

Hubspot

Entrepreneurship, Investing, Business

4.8 • 2.7K Ratings

🗓️ 21 March 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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💰 Get the Side Hustle Ideas Database [free] Episode 689: Sam Parr ( https://x.com/theSamParr ) and Shaan Puri ( https://x.com/ShaanVP ) break down the craziest stories of corporate espionage in history. — Show Notes: (0:00) Rippling vs Deel (10:21) The British East India Company (17:11) Oracle vs Microsoft (21:28) Coke vs. Pepsi (24:14) Uber vs. Waymo (26:03) U.S. Intellectual piracy (28:10) Wiz sells for $32B (39:40) A case for Glassdoor (45:54) Marc Lore's new thing (51:52) Money, Status, Power — Links: • Errol Musk interview - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5WyTw0oXDs • Gili Ranaan interview - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG0SiUtBSh0&t=187s&ab_channel=MetisStrategy — Check Out Shaan's Stuff: Need to hire? You should use the same service Shaan uses to hire developers, designers, & Virtual Assistants → it’s called Shepherd (tell ‘em Shaan sent you): https://bit.ly/SupportShepherd — Check Out Sam's Stuff: • Hampton - https://www.joinhampton.com/ • Ideation Bootcamp - https://www.ideationbootcamp.co/ • Copy That - https://copythat.com • Hampton Wealth Survey - https://joinhampton.com/wealth • Sam’s List - http://samslist.co/ My First Million is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by HubSpot Media // Production by Arie Desormeaux // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano

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0:00.0	All right, a sentence that has never been said before,
0:03.0	B2B Enterprise HR Software Space is the most riveting,
0:07.6	the most compelling SPNNAS story you'll ever hear.
0:11.3	I feel like this episode is going to have to start with the Netflix,
0:13.5	like, da- dun.
0:15.2	Because this is a Netflix original level drama.
0:18.4	I feel like I can rule the world.
0:20.5	I know I could be what I want to.
0:23.4	I put my all in it like no days off.
0:25.9	On a road,
0:26.5	let's travel, never looking back.
0:28.1	All right.
0:28.7	We got to do this story.
0:31.0	Parker Conrad, who is the CEO of a company called Ripling.
0:34.5	They do like payroll as well as other kind of back office stuff for
0:39.2	startups. Tweeted came out two days ago and said, Ripling sued deal today. Our lawsuit alleges
0:46.6	that deal cultivated a spy at Ripling and orchestrated a long running trade secret theft.
0:52.3	The spy searched deal in our system 23 times a day on average, letting him spy on deal's own customers who were considering switching to rippling.
1:00.1	And then he posts screenshots of the lawsuit.
1:03.2	Did you read this?
1:04.5	Yes.
1:04.9	And we should preface this saying, I think you have friends at deal.
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