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Explain It to Me

The white genocide episode you’ve been waiting for

Explain It to Me

Vox Media Podcast Network

Education, News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.48K Ratings

🗓️ 26 January 2018

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

A DACA ransom note from the White House prompts Matt, Dara and Jane Coaston to muse on whose nation this is, anyway. Referenced Works The American Conservative piece Jane referenced: Of Sh*tholes And Second Thoughts Elizabeth Bruenig's op ed for The Washington Post: The antisocial politics of Trump The Passing of a Great Race Nations and Nationalism Imagined Communities Profile of Stephen Miller in high school: How a liberal Santa Monica high school produced a top Trump advisor and speechwriter Further Reading Explainer on the White House immigration framework: The immigration deal Trump’s White House is floating, explained Dara on framework pitting current immigrants against future immigrants: The White House is trying to force Democrats to choose between current immigrants and future ones Jane’s piece on white genocide: The scary ideology behind Trump’s immigration instincts Economic consensus on immigration: There's no evidence that immigrants hurt any American workers Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Steven Miller is a populist in the same way that like, I don't know, I've taken up cross-country running.

0:06.8

Either we're not doing it or both very bad at it.

0:23.5

Hello and welcome to the weeds on the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:26.8

I'm Dara Lind. I'm here with Madaglaceous and Vox Senior Politics Reporter, Jane Kostin.

0:32.5

We are going to talk to you guys again about immigration.

0:35.7

I know this has been Friday weeds every week.

0:38.6

This is not me being super nefarious and saying we're going to turn the weeds into an immigration podcast.

0:43.3

They'll believe me. I would love that.

0:44.8

It's because yesterday, the White House, finally released, it really is.

0:49.5

And immigration, quote-unquote framework, that does not just represent its immigration wish list for every single thing.

1:00.5

And in theory, they think could be the core of a bipartisan proposal that could actually pass both houses.

1:06.5

The extent to which that is true is still TBD.

1:09.5

There was a big Russia scandal, Robert Mueller thing last night that is probably going to attract Congress's attention for at least a little while.

1:18.5

But the policy remains on the table.

1:20.5

And so we are going to be talking a little bit about that and also talking about the interesting shift that's happened within the GOP,

1:27.5

where in which concerns about legal immigration and possibly the racial subtext of legal immigration,

1:34.5

this is what Mad is calling the White Genocide Podcast of the weeds.

1:38.5

Well, yes.

1:39.5

No, I was just saying this document that came out yesterday, a part of what's significant about it,

1:45.5

is that it contained a clear proposal for dreamers in a way that previous White House documents hack, right?

1:53.5

That's part of what transforms this from a sort of a vague wish list to this is a proposal.

1:59.0

I mean, I don't think anyone would judge this to be a realistic proposal for something that will get 60 votes in the Senate.

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