And the Hey Andrew Clavin here with this week's interview with Matthew Goodwin.

I lived in Britain for most of the 90s and it's interesting because the politics of course is

very different the system is different but it always turns out to be some kind of

fun house mirror of what's going on in America and sometimes it leads us and sometimes it

follows us but you can always tell a lot by looking at what's happening in

Britain about what is happening here you can learn a lot about the US at

least that's been my experience.

Matthew Goodwin, who we're going to talk to today, was recently praised by John O'Sullivan

Claremont Review as one of the few political scientists who interpret the ongoing realignment

of British politics in ways

favorable to the right and I do as well but I'm not as knowledgeable as he does

is he is he is the second has the second biggest sub-stack in the UK. He's ranked fourth on the sub-stack world politics list.

He's advised two of the last three British prime ministers and is ranked among the most

influential conservative voices in the UK, so I wanted to talk to him about what's going on

over there Matthew thank you for coming on it's good to see you

thanks for having me Andrew it's a really great time to have this conversation yeah it's

amazing I mean I think to begin with you might want to just explain to an American audience what just happened in the elections.

Well, look, there's a lot to learn for Americans from what just happened in the UK here. So the

Conservative Party basically just completely collapsed at our general election.

It fell to the lowest number of seats in its entire history. Now remember, this is one of the most

successful political parties in the history of democracy. Well, the Conservatives just completely collapsed.

The Labour left-wing government, on the other hand,

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