In the consult, we discuss cases that are violent and sexually violent in nature.

Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to the consult.

I'm Julia Cowley, retired FBI agent and profiler and former special agent forensic scientist with the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation.

Today's episode is part two of the Walika murders, the double murder of two girls,

Skyla Whitaker, age 11, and Taylor Pascal Placker, age 13, on June 8, 2008 in Willika, Oklahoma.

If you haven't listened to Part 1, please go back and do so. I gave a summary of the case,

went over the girls's victimology,

detailed what I believe the sequence of events to be, and the interaction between the offender and the victims, as well as my initial observations regarding these events.

After spending several months, reviewing all the investigative materials that were provided,

I traveled to Oklahoma in May of 2011 to meet with investigators from the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation, or OSBI,

the Oakfusky County Sheriff's Office, and the Oklahoma City Division of the FBI.

We spent a lot of time going over their entire investigation.

They also took me out to the crime scene on County Line Road.

We walked back and forth from what was once the Placker residence to Bad Creek Bridge,

passing the location where the girls' bodies were found by Taylor's grandfather.

One thing that could not be captured in the crime scene photos was how quiet it was. The trees and

brush that lined the road were very thick and muffled sounds. At one point as we walked down

the middle of the road, one of the investigators lightly tapped my arm and motioned me to step aside.

A car had come right up behind us and I didn't even hear it.

I paused several times at the placard driveway and on the bridge, looking up and down the road,

picturing what happened that day. We spent the most time, however, at the crime scene,

going over crime scene investigators' observations and all the evidence they found. I wanted to make sure nothing in their investigation

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