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The Consult: Real FBI Profilers

Profiling Concepts

The Consult: Real FBI Profilers

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Talk Radio, True Crime

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2021

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of The Consult, retired FBI profilers Julia Cowley, Angela Sercer, Susan Kossler Drew, and Bob Drew discuss the process of profiling, or criminal investigative analysis, and the important concepts to consider when conducting a criminal investigative analysis. Concepts include victimology, organized vs. disorganized, M.O., ritual, staging, and body disposal. Follow The Consult on social media: Twitter.com/theconsultpod Instgram.com/theconsultpod Music by John Hanske. You can listen to John's music on Spotify.

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0:00.0

In the consult, we discuss cases that are violent and sexually violent in nature.

0:06.0

Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to the consult. I'm Julia Cowley, retired FBI agent and profiler, and former

0:42.9

special agent forensic scientist with the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation.

0:47.7

I'm Angela Serser, a retired FBI agent and profiler, and I was previously a special agent

0:53.6

with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and

0:55.4

firearms. I'm Susan Costler-Drew, retired FBI agent and profiler. And I'm Bob Drew, also a retired FBI

1:05.5

agent and profiler. Today's episode is going to be a little different because we're not going over a case.

1:13.4

Instead, what we thought we do is talk in detail about the process involved in criminal profiling.

1:21.0

As we discuss cases on this show, the investigative details, crime scene dynamics, victimology, and the behavior exhibited

1:30.3

before, during, and after the commission of a crime, we want our listeners to begin

1:36.4

developing their own ideas about the type of person responsible or the motive or even how

1:43.6

you think you'd interview that person.

1:45.9

So we thought it would be useful if we went over some of the basic concepts involved

1:51.3

in profiling.

1:53.2

First, let's talk about what profiling is not.

1:57.6

It's not an exact science.

1:59.5

It is not.

2:00.4

When you talk about human behavior, there are no

2:03.0

exacts, there are no absolutes. There are limitless variations in personal psychology and in the

2:10.8

resulting behaviors. And so there can never be a valid claim of an exact profile of an individual's personality or their

2:22.6

psychological state. There are indicators, behavioral indicators, things that can be gleaned from an

2:29.5

investigation that do shed light on the personality responsible for the crime. But there again, those are

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