Oh, Robin, Robin, get yourself out from under all of those pelts, for goodness sake.

Oh, thanks, John. What are pelts?

Well, they're the sort of skins and furs of various animals and hides therein.

I mean, it's hard to know what's on top of you when you're, you know, under it, so to

speak. Well, it felt like you were in a sort of situation where you were perpetually

falling into pelts. Perpeltually. Perpeltually. Perpeltually propelted. Yeah, it was. Cozy in

there, though. It is cozy, very warm. And also, the moon underwater is sort of ethics-neutral when it comes to some of the perhaps more traditional pelt adornments.

Ethics neutral is not a very nice phrase, John, is it?

Well, that's just how the moon underwater is.

The moon underwater does.

Sometimes it reveals the heads of animals, which I don't agree with.

Right.

Stuffed and hung on wooden shields.

Some of the woods here are probably quite hard to get hold of these days.

Oh, right.

Like, yeah, like Gibson guitars, they can't use the same wood they used in the 70s, can they?

Yeah, but all of, I would like to reassure everyone that all of the tusks, ivory, pelts and heads are all from a time when, even still not ethical, those things were sort of fine.

Well, is there a sense that they're not real?

Ah.

So it doesn't matter, like in the way that you could kill someone in a dream.

Yeah.

I think you might have hit the nail on the head there.

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